Bypassing no-go theorems on mixed classical-quantum systems: the (counter)example of hybrid van Hove theory
Abstract
Motivated by models of mixed quantum-classical hybrid theories, we consider the representation of classical observables as Hilbert-space operators based on van Hove's unitary representation of contact transformations. This leads to a reformulation of classical mechanics where the phase space density satisfies the Liouville equation and, more importantly, classical observables are represented by van Hove operators that satisfy a commutation algebra isomorphic to the classical Poisson algebra of functions in phase space. Thus, this Hilbert space approach captures all the essential features of the phase space formulation of classical mechanics in that it reproduces its algebraic structure -- something that is not achieved by other approaches such as the Koopman-von Neumann theory. As an important feature, the definition of appropriate physical states in this formalism imposes certain natural requirements on the phase of the classical wave function, which ensure correct expectation values for the observables. Furthermore, we discuss how to extend the approach to the hybrid van Hove theory of mixed classical-quantum systems and illustrate its application with the example of interacting classical and quantum oscillators. Finally, we focus on the question of how hybrid van Hove theory evades no-go theorems on mixed classical-quantum systems and point to the various assumptions of the no-go theorems that do not apply to our approach. This demonstrates that these no-go theorems are not universally applicable, contrary to their original claims.
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BibTeX
@misc{reginatto2026bypassing,
title = {{Bypassing no-go theorems on mixed classical-quantum systems: the (counter)example of hybrid van Hove theory}},
author = {Marcel Reginatto and Andrés Darío Bermúdez Manjarres and Sebastian Ulbricht},
howpublished = {arXiv},
year = {2026},
month = sep,
doi = {10.48550/arxiv.2609.31209},
eprint = {2609.31209},
archivePrefix = {arXiv},
url = {https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.31209},
note = {CC BY 4.0},
}
RIS
TY - UNPB
TI - Bypassing no-go theorems on mixed classical-quantum systems: the (counter)example of hybrid van Hove theory
AU - Marcel Reginatto
AU - Andrés Darío Bermúdez Manjarres
AU - Sebastian Ulbricht
PY - 2026
DA - 2026/09/25
PB - arXiv
DO - 10.48550/arxiv.2609.31209
UR - https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.31209
AB - Motivated by models of mixed quantum-classical hybrid theories, we consider the representation of classical observables as Hilbert-space operators based on van Hove's unitary representation of contact transformations. This leads to a reformulation of classical mechanics where the phase space density satisfies the Liouville equation and, more importantly, classical observables are represented by van Hove operators that satisfy a commutation algebra isomorphic to the classical Poisson algebra of functions in phase space. Thus, this Hilbert space approach captures all the essential features of the phase space formulation of classical mechanics in that it reproduces its algebraic structure -- something that is not achieved by other approaches such as the Koopman-von Neumann theory. As an important feature, the definition of appropriate physical states in this formalism imposes certain natural requirements on the phase of the classical wave function, which ensure correct expectation values for the observables. Furthermore, we discuss how to extend the approach to the hybrid van Hove theory of mixed classical-quantum systems and illustrate its application with the example of interacting classical and quantum oscillators. Finally, we focus on the question of how hybrid van Hove theory evades no-go theorems on mixed classical-quantum systems and point to the various assumptions of the no-go theorems that do not apply to our approach. This demonstrates that these no-go theorems are not universally applicable, contrary to their original claims.
ER -